BinLaden Brother Disputes Moore Film
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BinLaden Brother Disputes Moore Film
Bin Laden Brother Disputes Moore Film
Wed Jul 28, 3:31 PM ET Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo!
PARIS - A half-brother of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) says he enjoyed most of Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11," except for what he called "inaccuracies" about his family.
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"It's a moving film," Yeslam Binladin, a Geneva-based tycoon and one of the al-Qaida leader's 54 siblings, said in an interview with the French magazine VSD.
"I even laughed at times," said Binladin, adding, "but a lot less when he states errors or inaccuracies about my family, knowing perfectly well that he's deceiving the public."
In the film, Moore says President Bush (news - web sites) tried to cover up his family's longtime business and personal ties to the family of Osama bin Laden and other prominent Saudis because many of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia.
One of his main points is that the U.S. administration helped 142 Saudis — including two dozen members of bin Laden's family — fly out of the United States two days after the Sept. 11 attacks, even though commercial air space was closed.
"That's false and can be verified by anyone," said the Saudi-born Binladin, who intentionally spells his name differently from Osama, the prime suspect in the Sept. 11 attacks. "They benefited from no exceptional authorization to leave American territory."
A recent 9/11 panel report states that the chartered flights took place starting Sept. 14, once airspace had reopened.
Binladin, who has lived in Geneva for many years and has Swiss citizenship, told the magazine that his U.S.-based family members flew into Geneva on Sept. 20 before taking off again for Saudi Arabia.
The movie also states that several family members attended a 2001 wedding of one of Osama bin Laden's sons in Afghanistan (news - web sites) — a claim Binladin says is exaggerated.
"Nobody from my family was at this wedding in Afghanistan except for the mother of Osama," said Binladin. Yeslam and Osama are among the 54 sons and daughters of the late Saudi construction magnate Mohammed bin Laden and his 22 wives.
Binladin, the founder of Geneva-based financial company Sico, said the last time he saw his younger half-brother was before Osama left Saudi Arabia in 1981.
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BinLaden Brother Disputes Moore Film
Hehe now we are all going to believe a Bin Laden brother, good job mestiza. A very trustworthy family source, hehe. How exactly does that go along your freakin war on terror and such? You people are just weird.
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BinLaden Brother Disputes Moore Film
I don't think he would have any reason or motive to lie about something like that. I think Moore should have done more homework or more research into what was going on before he made his film. Moore is not an expert on American foreign policy and he would have been wise to consult a few of those analysts before he started making accusations indirectly in his film. A documentary is suppose to present all the facts in the proper context. Moore's film took some facts (while un-intentionally in my opinion leaving out other facts) and started to take things out of context and came to the wrong conclusions.
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There is no reason for him to lie? Now we have conservatives so eager to bash Moore that they totally screw up any common sense and start giving a Bin Laden's words as arguments. Yeah, he has no reason to lie, except for trying to cover up his and his family's ass and Saudi Arabia as a whole - but that's of course nothing. He is a sweet and honest person.
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I'm not bashing Moore. Moore has a right to make his film. That's what this country is all about. I just think he did a poor job in analyzing the facts and he took things way out of context in his film.
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And you cite a Bin Laden as your argument? Very, very strong position.
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Moore said he he is already got passes to appear at the Republican National Convention. He says he plans to attend the convention. It should be interesting to see how he is recieved. I hope that the republicans don't go to the extremes and react too harshly. But I have this feeling he won't be well recieved. He will probably be their and be able to stay their but I don't think some republicans are going to like it too much.
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Do you think he gives a crap if they receive him well though? Good thing is that they'll be scared to death to talk their usual dirty crap because he can expose their stupid remarks :) So its all good, he'll keep them on their leash.
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I saw a couple of debates between Moore and some republican activists and I got the impression Moore was on the losing end of the debate. The 9-11 commission has cleared Bush of lying and several world leaders (including Vladamir Putin) had stated they had intelligence as well that Iraq planned terrorist attacks on the US. Now you have to understand, Saddam tried to also assasinate (excuse my poor spelling) the elder Bush as well. I wouldn't put it past Saddam to try to launch terrorist attacks on the US in the slightest bit. Saddam has a special hatred for America and especially of the Bush family.
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Many countries have a special hatred for America, as you realize. And what's up with assasination of Bush, what are you talking about? Even if so, how does that justify deaths of hundreds of soldiers and thousands of innocent civilians. Just to protect the Bush family? What, US army are now Bush's bodyguards or something?
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You didn't know about Saddam trying to assinate the elder Bush? Well, basically the plot was uncovered and the Clinton Adminstration at the time launched airstrikes and lobbed a few cruise missles into Iraq. Me personally, if any government kills a US president I think we need to nuke the country and take it off the map and make an example out of them. That way other governments will think twice before trying assinate a US president. An attempt on the life of a US president is a direct attack on the American people and the country.
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So, Clinton took care of the situation (as he did of many things, great president), why are you raising the issue again? Is it now Bush's personal vendetta that thousands of people have to die for? Are you really suggesting this can be a good reason to waste so many people's lives?
By the way, back to the topic, here is a pretty good Moore interview:
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/28/moore.interview/index.html
Hehe, one thing I noticed there - USA Today stopped publishing Ann Coulter's columns and will start publishing Moore instead! Wohoo :):) Hehe, so much for another backward thinking nutjob :)
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Well I am not much of an Anne Coulter fan myself. She seems like a scary chick man. Most republicans are not like her though. And most democrats are not like Moore either for that matter.
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Well one this is for sure, when Clinton was president, few of the American liberals were "defending" the innocents in the Former Yugoslavia and Clinton did little to defend the innocent over their in that part of the world. In the end, when he did finally do something it was too late. At least in Bosnia. Now in Kosovo, I fully support his actions of intervening early on. He acted as he should have in a timely manner in Kosovo and saved thousands of lives by doing so. But in Bosnia, I was very angry that he negotiated with Milosevic and did little to stop the death camps over their.
"Freedom is the right to question and change the established way of doing things. It is the continuous revolution of the marketplace. It is the understanding that allows to recognize shortcomings and seek solutions." - Ronald Reagan
Are you angry that others disappoint you? remember you cannot depend upon yourself. -Benjamin Franklin
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